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Post by Jason Guy on Feb 3, 2011 16:14:51 GMT -6
Ok, Well guys here we go....
Annie- We really didnt get to know each other at all during the game. And I felt and several others including Justin said at one time or another that "Annie seemed really into the game at first, but as its gone on, just doesnt seem to even want to play or be in the game anymore." And I honestly did feel like you had kinda given up, but since I didnt know you in the game, I can only go based on how you answer these questions to give you my vote. So what I would like to know is, was it part of your strategy to kinda go invisible at times or was it just circumstancial or what? Or if you disagree then please explain why you do.
Justin- We never really clicked until the end of the game and at that point it was just too late for me to trust you and vice versa. But during this final round, you said many, many, many times that you wanted me with you in the final 2 and that "Annie sucked in the HoH" and "She thinks im taking her but Im not" and you even went so far as to say you were going to throw the final round of the final HoH to me so Id eliminate Annie. Obviously since you didnt want to eliminate her, that meant you had a final 2 alliance, I asked you about it at the time, but you denied it and I still wasnt convinced. Regardless, I was going to take you to the final 2 because I try not to play my game based around other peoples games and consider anyone a threat to win in the finals at any point in the game. As you said you wanted me in final 2 with you, I assumed you werent telling the truth, but part of me believed it because I thought "theres no way he would be dumb enough to keep telling me were going to final 2, even after the fact and then vote me out, he must know that would hurt him in the finals"....so my question to you is, based on what youve done to so many people in the game, what do you think percentage wise, your chances of winning are, and would you vote for yourself to win over Annie and why.
BOTH --------------- Please compare all jurors and yourselves to.....something. It can be anything.....A word, a song, a singer, movie, actor, a war, color, feeling, Big Brother Player, a dessert, a country. Whatever you want, I just want to see how well each of you got to know the other players and what you saw in their games as an individual to make you compare them to whatever you compare them too.
Also please list the 4 jurors, you THINK you have the best shot at getting a vote to win from.
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Post by Annie Whittington on Feb 3, 2011 20:09:35 GMT -6
Annie- We really didnt get to know each other at all during the game. And I felt and several others including Justin said at one time or another that "Annie seemed really into the game at first, but as its gone on, just doesnt seem to even want to play or be in the game anymore." And I honestly did feel like you had kinda given up, but since I didnt know you in the game, I can only go based on how you answer these questions to give you my vote. So what I would like to know is, was it part of your strategy to kinda go invisible at times or was it just circumstancial or what? Or if you disagree then please explain why you do. BOTH --------------- Please compare all jurors and yourselves to.....something. It can be anything.....A word, a song, a singer, movie, actor, a war, color, feeling, Big Brother Player, a dessert, a country. Whatever you want, I just want to see how well each of you got to know the other players and what you saw in their games as an individual to make you compare them to whatever you compare them too. Also please list the 4 jurors, you THINK you have the best shot at getting a vote to win from. At times I actually maintained myself from all the drama and craziness. See I am a VERY explosive player and I can get real nasty quick. And this is something that Housecallers know. I thought that while people fought I just sat back and enjoyed my day off because people would talk and target but there never was mention of targetting me. So I think losing interest in the game is definitely false. I was just simply using a strategy I never really use because I am usually a really abrassive and aggresive player which tends to get me booted. Comparing: I'll be using videogame characters because you know I love those. Most likely RPGs considering I am a geek of those. Annie - Tifa Lockheart was the second main character in Final Fantasy 7. She was VERY strong, not the strongest but definitely not weak. Which is like my competition skills this season. I came in 2nd a lot of times. And I won twice. Can't say I'm weak whatsoever. She was very honest with her feelings just as I was in this game. And overall a likeable. While maybe I wasn't THE most likeable player I certainly wasn't in anyones radars so I obviously was doing something right. Justin - Zelos Wilder from Tales of Symphonia. He was actually a saboteur in your group of characters and the ladies man. Justin was SURE working the ladies angle being flirtatious and all of the females would get a kick out of it. Besides that I feel like Justin was double dealing too much around the game. He had good and strong allies. I think this could hurt him in the votes now because there's no real necessity of making alliances just to break them 1 minute later. He was also very strong strategically and Zelos was like a natural born leader like Justin. Jason - Auron is the strongest character during Final Fantasy X. You were hands down THE player to beat in competitions. Auron wasn't a person of many words and very reserved. I thought you had your cards well played and not really showing much of anything because there was no benefit from it. Mike - Quina from Final Fantasy IX. She was SO annoying at times like Mike even tho I ALWAYS told him how I felt about him. Quina was however a VERY underrated character and so was Mike in this game coming in 4th place. I thought for sure Mike was toast week 2 or week 3. Amanda - Kid from Chrono Cross. Kid was like this lovable strong girl. Aggravating at times but really strong. Amanda had the bueno schtick and I told her flat out on Week 1 she needed to stop that. I loled so much but I was kidding. Anyways Amanda shocked me quiet a few times during this game. She was a competitor and a player. All the way. Strong and determined. Eric - Kimari from Final Fantasy X. He was SO quiet. And to me Eric was SO quiet during the game. We talked a few times but he was still almost invisible. In fact I think he had nothing to worry about had Justin not used that Power of Veto that week he was evicted. I could see Eric easily in the final 3 or final 2. Jen - Fran from Final Fantasy 12. Fran was such a mega bitch. Jen and I had the bitchiest AIM bitchfest sessions of the game. Trashtalking and gossiping so much because it made me laugh so much. Jen was also a strong pressence in the game. Fran was the HBIC of the game and at times Jen was an HBIC even fighting back with the host. Adam - Caith Sith from Final Fantasy 7. He was SUCH a liar like Adam. Adam was like obsessed with making up lies about me everywhere. It was so funny. Caith Sith was a trainwreckish character but at times solid. While Adam was all over the place sometimes his game damaged others. I feel like this is pretty accurate. Not to mention both were annoying as FUCK at times. Kaysar - Peco from Breath of Fire 3. Kaysar was a LOT of time away and Peco was almost non-existant throught the game. He had like 30 minutes of storyline tops. Which is probably the time I managed to talk to Kaysar throughout the game. Votes I think I have the best shot of getting. 1. Jen - She knows where I stood with her. Even tho she did not know about my final 2 with Justin she knew about EVERYTHING else. 2. Eric - We've talked after the game and I was actually nice to him the few times we talked during the game. 3. Kaysar - I was honest and upfront with Kaysar. So I think I might have his respect as a player. 4. Jason - Perhaps feeling betrayed by Justin's deal and then breaking it?
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Post by Jason Guy on Feb 3, 2011 20:54:22 GMT -6
Thanks Annie, I actually know some of those characters from a different series (k.h.) but thanks for your answers Annie, I'll wait til Justin responds before making a decision
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Post by Jason Guy on Feb 4, 2011 1:47:48 GMT -6
Ok, I have something to add after talking about it and thinking about it.......Ive heard a lot about this red room alliance being like an "epic win" or whatever it was. But from my side looking in currently. It seems to me, it was a group that clearly had no trust in each other and really didnt do anything. Week 1 was a given with everyone going after Jacob and week 2 only lasted about 35 minutes before Ryan quit. And by week 3 I was aligned with Eric and Amanda so it apparently disbanded around that time. So the alliance outlasted a troll, a quitter and an inactive but seems to be the high point of the game in peoples minds......I would like to know if any of this is accurate, Im not trying to be condesending (idk how its spelled, I did my best) but Im just not getting it at all. I would just like to know for curiosities sake, not really as a swaying decision on my jury vote, if either of you would like to answer this. I know you all made final 6 but was it together still or what was it?
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Post by Justin Sebik on Feb 4, 2011 2:41:34 GMT -6
Justin- We never really clicked until the end of the game and at that point it was just too late for me to trust you and vice versa. But during this final round, you said many, many, many times that you wanted me with you in the final 2 and that "Annie sucked in the HoH" and "She thinks im taking her but Im not" and you even went so far as to say you were going to throw the final round of the final HoH to me so Id eliminate Annie. Obviously since you didnt want to eliminate her, that meant you had a final 2 alliance, I asked you about it at the time, but you denied it and I still wasnt convinced. Regardless, I was going to take you to the final 2 because I try not to play my game based around other peoples games and consider anyone a threat to win in the finals at any point in the game. As you said you wanted me in final 2 with you, I assumed you werent telling the truth, but part of me believed it because I thought "theres no way he would be dumb enough to keep telling me were going to final 2, even after the fact and then vote me out, he must know that would hurt him in the finals"....so my question to you is, based on what youve done to so many people in the game, what do you think percentage wise, your chances of winning are, and would you vote for yourself to win over Annie and why.
First of all, you are implying that what I did to you was my default mode when you represent the only real case in my game of a promise that led to a successful backstab. Yeah I tried doing it to Amanda and yeah I could have gotten into a bad situation with Mike...but those things didn't end up happening that way. Mike was voted out by you and by the time I got Amanda out it was in a very straightforward way.
Most people sitting on the jury and even pre-jury aren't sitting there because I lied to them. Lying isn't a tactic that I think defines me in this game, it's just a tactic that I'm not going to back away from using if it'll help.
From my memory, we mentioned the hypothetical awesomeness of us teaming up in this game going back to the final 6 but I kind of danced around giving you a blatant final 2 deal at that point. I didn't want to lie.
It was at the final four that I finally became really nervous about being voted out and I threw a final 2 deal at you. The distaste at lying was outweighed by a huge margin with how DUMB I'd feel if you voted me out at final four when all it might take to prevent it is some incentive. If I was voted out, I'd have beat myself up over not making the one game move I still could do.
So maybe I didn't need to lie but how was I supposed to know that? I told you we had an f2 to make sure you take me to f2. I told you that Annie sucked at the HOH because she did and it was lame and I wanted you to remember that during your jury duty.
I wasn't that worried about losing your jury vote over it. After all, you did talk a good amount at one point about "thinking a lot" about using a veto on me if you win it and then almost right as you won the Veto you chose to keep the nominations the same. Not trying to give you shit for it now or even saying that was as bad as what I did, but what I do want you to get out of it is that I had siege mentality because you gave me no non-verbal reason to trust you until the end of the final four round.
So the first part of your question was...what are my percentages of winning. Well on paper it would seem that I should have this almost wrapped up. I made bolder moves than Annie, I won more competitions than Annie, and I got to know most of the jurors a lot more than Annie. In fact on this last point it seems like a good number of jurors never got to even know who Annie really is.
But my gameplay does rub some people the wrong way. Not because I was bad at it, or it didn't do me good, or it wasn't strategic...but just because people don't like it. More specifically, people don't like being the victims of it. For me to lose this game would mean that some of those people who barely talked to Annie this entire game vote for her to win...which is basically another way of saying that Annie might win because she's not Justin.
So to sum up if this is going to be Annie vs. Justin I think I have this won, but if it's going to be Reward Justin vs. Punish Justin then I have no idea which way it will go. Probably towards me losing.
So I will put my odds at 50%.
Also you asked who I would vote for and as you can tell by what a cocky dick I am, that answer is clearly me. Annie and I worked together in this game but it was my usage of the diamond power of veto, my talk with Mike that got him to vote out Eric instead of Annie, and me winning three HOHs in the second half of the game which really made it possible for us to go to the end together.
BOTH --------------- Please compare all jurors and yourselves to.....something. It can be anything.....A word, a song, a singer, movie, actor, a war, color, feeling, Big Brother Player, a dessert, a country. Whatever you want, I just want to see how well each of you got to know the other players and what you saw in their games as an individual to make you compare them to whatever you compare them too. Also please list the 4 jurors, you THINK you have the best shot at getting a vote to win from.
OK I'm going to come back and do the creative task because it's nearly 4AM and I want to press "Post Reply"
The four jurors who I feel I have the best shot of getting their vote are:
YOU (if you don't vote for me it's clearly out of spite) Mike (same goes for this guy) Adam (I couldn't do much for Adam but I did try...and I don't see why he'd vote for Annie) Amanda (I feel like she gets me as a player and will see where I'm coming from)
If I was up against anyone but Annie I'd have included Jen on that list but Annie's presence makes it more ambiguous. We were kind of a love triangle of final 2 deals.
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Post by Annie Whittington on Feb 4, 2011 6:55:24 GMT -6
Ok, I have something to add after talking about it and thinking about it.......Ive heard a lot about this red room alliance being like an "epic win" or whatever it was. But from my side looking in currently. It seems to me, it was a group that clearly had no trust in each other and really didnt do anything. Week 1 was a given with everyone going after Jacob and week 2 only lasted about 35 minutes before Ryan quit. And by week 3 I was aligned with Eric and Amanda so it apparently disbanded around that time. So the alliance outlasted a troll, a quitter and an inactive but seems to be the high point of the game in peoples minds......I would like to know if any of this is accurate, Im not trying to be condesending (idk how its spelled, I did my best) but Im just not getting it at all. I would just like to know for curiosities sake, not really as a swaying decision on my jury vote, if either of you would like to answer this. I know you all made final 6 but was it together still or what was it? As a room we had A LOT of communication. I feel as tho that despite our side deals we were still strong. Otherwise I don't think all of us 4 would have made Final 6. However by the time of Final 7 it was obviously in 2 sides. Making it Amanda/Eric and Justin/me. I hope this clears up your doubt.
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Post by Justin Sebik on Feb 4, 2011 23:28:09 GMT -6
Ok, I have something to add after talking about it and thinking about it.......Ive heard a lot about this red room alliance being like an "epic win" or whatever it was. But from my side looking in currently. It seems to me, it was a group that clearly had no trust in each other and really didnt do anything. Week 1 was a given with everyone going after Jacob and week 2 only lasted about 35 minutes before Ryan quit. And by week 3 I was aligned with Eric and Amanda so it apparently disbanded around that time. So the alliance outlasted a troll, a quitter and an inactive but seems to be the high point of the game in peoples minds......I would like to know if any of this is accurate, Im not trying to be condesending (idk how its spelled, I did my best) but Im just not getting it at all. I would just like to know for curiosities sake, not really as a swaying decision on my jury vote, if either of you would like to answer this. I know you all made final 6 but was it together still or what was it? As a room we had A LOT of communication. I feel as tho that despite our side deals we were still strong. Otherwise I don't think all of us 4 would have made Final 6. However by the time of Final 7 it was obviously in 2 sides. Making it Amanda/Eric and Justin/me. I hope this clears up your doubt. I'm going to agree with everything Annie said here. Jason while it is true you were already working with Eric and Amanda by Week 3...it is also true that when Eric was HOH in week 3 he was never going to put any member of the Red Room up. It wasn't so much of an alliance in the let's plan our victory and hold each other accountable sort of arrangement...though there was a bit of that too. It was more the fact that we knew we weren't supposed to put each other up. And for a while the game was big enough for the Red Room and all its side deals.
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Post by Justin Sebik on Feb 5, 2011 13:26:50 GMT -6
TV SHOW CHARACTERS THAT ARE KIND OF LIKE THE BBR7 JURY AND FINAL 2 Justin Sebik is Dexter Morgan (Dexter)Dexter Morgan is a serial killer with a blood lust. Don't worry though he only hunts down other killers so it's all good. Except the time that he got his co-worker indirectly killed...or his wife...eh fuck it. He's a good guy. To do what he does he needs to maintain secrecy. He tries to balance the honest acceptance he desires in his regular life with the dark passenger inside of him that leads him on his mission. Plus like Justin Sebik he does shit like this: Annie Whittington is Liz Lemon (30 Rock)Liz Lemon is both powerful and hilarious. She's not always the big head hancho when it comes to making decisions but it's not because she lacks leadership skills. Like Liz Lemon, Annie was comfortable with her sphere of influence and relied on a more unscrupulous guy to keep the show going. Jason Guy is Hank Moody (Californication)Jason Guy was the most badass man in Recycled 7 and Hank Moody is the most badass man on television. Neither have a shortage of fun dialogue to retort with. Both have a way of still being up even when things are looking down. Mike Lubinski is Rick Grimes (The Walking Dead)Rick Grimes lives in a post apocalyptic wasteland where zombies roam the earth and where danger lurks behind every corner. Mike had to live his game like that...with a number of enemies and frequent nominations. He had to fight to survive. Amanda Hansen is Debra Morgan (Dexter)Debra Morgan puts her whole heart into her work and will never back away from telling some bitch off. That's pretty much Amanda. Amanda is really sweet and knows how to charm but if you piss her off watch out. I personally loved both aspects of her. Eric Ouelette is Angel (Angel)Eric and Angel are both good guys who fight for what they believe in. They are also both kind of quiet sometimes. However when they are in the mood for it they can definitely crack a good joke. Jen Diturno is Buffy (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)Buffy and Jen are funny, feisty, determined, and in charge. I've had fun playing this game with Jen, she's definitely an incredible player. Adam Jasinski is Jack Shephard (LOST)Adam really wanted to understand what the hell is going on like Jack Shephard on LOST. What are the alliances? Who was with who? Adam was always trying to figure it out. He was as determined to figure it out and make it to the end as Jack was to get off that damn island. Kaysar Ridha is Spartacus (Spartacus)Kaysar and Spartacus were unexpectedly forced onto an arena where they had to fight for their lives. Neither was willing to go down without a fight and did whatever they could to escape. They both have drive.
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Post by Annie Whittington on Feb 5, 2011 13:30:55 GMT -6
Using Californication and Spartacus <3 Great shows.
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Post by Chenbot on Feb 5, 2011 13:55:15 GMT -6
30 Rock <3
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